Sunday, 18 July 2010
Ex-Ownerships boat Shadow joins BCBM
I joined most of the other members of the Shadow syndicate yesterday at the Old Royal Oak by the Oxford Canal in Hillmorton.
We had a long but productive meeting, starting shortly after 1100 (before the pub had even opened) and finishing at about half past five. The main issue, that of the three "missing" shares which were owned by OwnerShips before it collapsed, we were told, had been resolved. The three shares had been acquired, and effectively dissolved. This means that those who had held a twelfth share now own a ninth share; and owners of what was a half share now own an eighteenth of the boat. We were assured by the owner who was telling us this that it was all completely legally watertight.
Shadow at Loughborough Wharf in 2009
I have to say that this came as a surprise to everyone and was universally welcomed. Of course, it means that all the costs of running the boat are now split between fewer people, but we all get more weeks afloat.
We discussed how we were going to operate as a syndicate: whether to self-manage, or go with a shared ownership management company. We agreed that we'd joined OwnerShips in the first place because we wanted someone else to have the hassle of looking after the boat, so we dropped the self-managing option. We considered three management companies: ABCBM; BCBM; and Ownashare Cruising Ltd.
ABCBM is the boat management arm of what used to be Alvechurch Boat Centre. They had made a very competitive bid, offering to manage our boat for just £250 per share annually provided we moor at one of their marinas (£350 if we were to moor elsewhere), and promising 5% discount on all diesel, pumpout and parts. The first management fee would cover until the end of 2011.
BC Boat Management Ltd. was set up by Andrew Barton and John Cunliffe in the wake of the collapse of Challenger Syndicates. Their fee was more, at £400 per share, but people seemed to be impressed with the professionalism of the brochure and what was promised. Andrew Cooley and Carole Briese came to give us a presentation of what they could do for us. Andrew Cooley was OwnerShips's local manager at attenhall Marina and has been managing Shadow since the demise of OS.
Ownashare Cruising Ltd. is the company which is rising from the ashes of OwnerShips.
We swiftly dismissed the latter option. We were smarting too much from the enormous losses we'd all sustained. We'd added up our collective losses: they came to over £22,000. Thanks OCL, but no thanks. So it was between ABCBM and BCBM. I played devil's advocate, putting forward the case for ABCBM, but we plumped unanimously for BCBM. The fact that Andrew Cooley knew our boat so well weighed heavily in his favour. Andrew and Carole left (celebrating, no doubt) and we went through the BCBM syndicate agreement and discussed moving the boat further south for next year.
As I said, a productive meeting, and I now find I own a little bit more of the boat than I did. That means more weeks (good) and more money to find (bad), but (obviously) not as much money as a whole boat would consume.
I think my boat search is on hold for a bit.
(edited to add photos and correct a typo)
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14 comments:
Hi Halfie
Glad the meeting had a positive outcome. You must be relieved now you know where you stand. And more weeks - Yay!
Hi John.
I think I would like to see written evidence that the 3 shares have been disolved to all owners, otherwise it could come back to bite you.
Brian
Debbie and Bill, yes, relief, but I take note of what Brian says. More weeks but more cost; and we've voted to pay back the majority of the money owed by OwnerShips on Shadow's account to two boatyards.
Good and bad news Halfie. Glad you've sorted things out and have a greater share of the bat, but sorry you've taken such a loss too and will have to pay in more. I hope the good points outweigh the bad in the long term!
Brian, I agree. When BCBM has formally accepted Shadow I'll request written confirmation of status from them.
VallyP, yes, our boat was one of the three worst-faring boats under OwnerShips in terms of money owed. Apparently it was because its winter works were among the last to be done, and its bills didn't get paid.
Hi Halfie
Would be interested to know how you resolved the OS buy back shares as they currently hold one of ours.
I'm based in Norfolk as well.
email is tonyyoungathotmaildotcom
Cheers!
Tony
Hi Halfie
Yes, please could you let us know how you resolved the OS buy back share issue. We have the same problem on 'Stella'.
Tony and JR, all I know is what one of our owners told us. I think they dealt directly with OS and the receiver. I do believe what they have said - that the boat is now wholly owned by us, but I don't know the details. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful.
I would double check what your owner has told you!
I have just spoken to Bright's Solicitors who are acting to wind up Ownerships.
They confirmed that any outstanding shares owned by Ownerships are still in their posession and will be dealt with by the OR - who has yet to be appointed!
Tony, I will check. Now we've gone over to BCBM I'll get them to confirm it's all legit. Thanks.
What would be of great help to other owners in a similar situation was how you were able to achieve this.
Any updates???
Tony, sorry, I have no more information. BCBM will officially take over our syndicate on 1st August.
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